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[EngFor] The usage of "everyone" and "themselves".
honeybadger228@gmail.com [EngFor]
8 years ago
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Is the usage of "themselves" below grammatically correct?

Everyone in the family can enjoy themselves there.


I think that "everyone" is a singular noun,but "themselves" is a plural form.
'Ann.English' Ann.English@clear.net.nz [EngFor]
8 years ago
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Post by ***@gmail.com [EngFor]
Is the usage of "themselves" below grammatically correct?
Everyone in the family can enjoy themselves there.
I think that "everyone" is a singular noun,but "themselves" is a plural form.
There are two points of grammar here.


(1) Are words that mean a group treated as singular or plural? That is, do we say “The family (or committee, or government, or group) is enjoying itself” or do we say “the team (class, squad, party, crowd, etc.) are enjoying themselves”?

I think it is good style to use singular grammar when the group acts as a unit, and plural grammar when the members act individually.

Example. Singular. “The Government is united.” Plural. “The government are a gang of halfwits, quarrelling among themselves.”




(2) Must pronouns agree in number and agree with the verb?

My answer is “Yes, but things are changing. We use ‘they’ (and ‘them’ and ‘their’) for one person now, instead of ‘he or she’. Most people use the 3rd-person plural verb with they-for-one-person.” Example. “One child has left their lunch on the bus. Ah, here they come to get it.”
“A child travelling on their parent’s passport must have their details recorded 
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Examples from Honeybadger’s sentence, with my opinions on grammar and style.

[i] The family can enjoy itself.
Grammar okay. Style okay.


[ii] The family can enjoy themselves.
Grammar okay. Style okay.


[iii] Everyone in the family can enjoy themselves.
Grammar okay. Style okay.

[iv] Everyone in the family can enjoy themself.
Grammar okay. Style okay.

[v] Everyone in the family can enjoy herself or himself.
Grammar okay. Style bad.

[vi] Everyone in the family can enjoy himself.
Grammar bad. Style very bad.

[vii] All the people in the family can enjoy themselves.
Grammar okay. Style okay.



I suggest that people learning English should listen to people around them and copy what they hear. It is good manners in class to copy the teacher.

Ann

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